Wednesday, November 17, 2010

More bad errors on Paltalk

1. JesusIsMyKing (aka Nader)--holds to the belief that Adam original sin does not cause physical death, only spiritual, As 'proof' he quotes Hebrews: 
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment:-Hebrews 9:27
He assumes this is something that was always the case, whereas this appointment to die is the result of Adam's sin.  This doctrine is particularly odd since not even the Pelagians were interested in denying the physical death, 

He was attempting to prove this to escape from the fact that Christ's death on the Cross died no pay the penalty of all man's sins on the cross.  Since original sin causes us to die both spiritually and physically, had Christ's atonement paid this penalty, then Christians (or atleast Fundamentalists) should never physically die, since this according to them should have been paid for.

We can know that Adam's sin did cause man to suffer physical death by the words of St Paul on the matter:

But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.-1 Corinthians 15:20-22 
 The death spoken here is physical death, since it is contrasted with the ressurection of the dead. 

Therefore, "JesusIsMyKing" is wrong.  Adam did cause physical death to fall upon all men, even the Jews believe this. 

Conclusion: Adam's sin caused physical death to come down on the human race, it was part of the penalty/punishment for man sinning.  Now since Christians still die a physical death, dare we say Christ paid this punishment on the Cross? No.


       1. Physical Death is the punishment of the Sin of Adam (1 Cor 15:21)
       2. All Christians die. (Observable fact, see church obituaries and cementaries)
Conclusion: Christ did not pay the punishment of all sins on the Cross.

What happened at the Cross? Christ appeased the wrath of God by His death, that is a Propitiation. (1 John 2:2)

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