tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post1235641401587193286..comments2024-03-02T11:42:58.456-08:00Comments on Golden Sword Apologetics: Psalm 22:16 notes: Karu or Kaari?Berhane Selassiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06611383094868702883noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-90731241077958519802020-09-15T20:04:57.915-07:002020-09-15T20:04:57.915-07:00Also here is great information on the famous Psalm...Also here is great information on the famous Psalms, Psalms 22!<br />How do you know that the people who use the (Nahal Hever) Psalm 22:16(17) proof don't know Hebrew?<br />First understand this there is no Psalms 22 in the DSS everyone gets this confused.<br />The Psalms 22 everyone is speaking of is the one found in the Nahal Hever caves which is 9 miles from the Qumran caves in the NAHAL HEVER CAVES .<br />Also note that this fragment is from a much later date from C.E 132 - 135 and around the Bar Kochba area.<br />A lot of people focus on the KAARU KAARI word but here is the thing next word in the Nahal Hever fragment actually says<br />HER HANDS and I can prove it easily using Christian sources ( I really like doing this because it shows that its actually biased to the christian view point, so they can't say anything. )<br />Nouns are either feminine or male in Hebrew so lets look at the word specifically<br />Look for "his hands"<br />That is masculine form <br />https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jeremiah/50-43.htm <br />https://biblehub.com/interlinear/zechariah/4-9.htm <br />https://biblehub.com/interlinear/songs/5-14.htm <br />https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/5-25.htm<br /><br />Now lets look at the feminine form of the word hands.<br /><br />The ה at the end of the noun signifies that the noun is of feminine form and here is the proof.<br />https://biblehub.com/hebrew/yadeiha_3027.htm <br />https://biblehub.com/hebrew/beyadeiha_3027.htm<br /><br />So coming from the Nahal Hever text for Jesus was a female since HER HANDS were pierced.<br /><br />When Christians start using the Nahal Hever text as proof the Rabbis changed the meaning of the word it makes them understand that if that is correct than the passage definitely isn't speaking about Jesus.<br /><br />It's not a textual variant. You are just ignorant of Hebrew. There is no DSS with Psalms 22 in it.<br />foobarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17641940661857975056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-43586673222809760612019-07-26T22:29:18.907-07:002019-07-26T22:29:18.907-07:00first off David, is not talking about himself. The...first off David, is not talking about himself. There is no record of David, being in a conflict like the one he is describing. This a revelation given to him by God prophetically describing, the death of Christ, who was so badly beaten he could not be recognized as man, did they not mock and insult him. did they not surround him like a pack of wild animals, and rip his flesh like animals, did they not pierce his hands and his feet. his death define psalms 22 written with his blood. all that were there witnessed it. jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00874105227934385333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-45297385294721542322018-10-25T11:43:40.200-07:002018-10-25T11:43:40.200-07:00The entire kaaru argument as well as the "it&...The entire kaaru argument as well as the "it's a mistake" argument miss one very obvious and important point. Check out this video.<br /><br />https://youtu.be/MImJI68_-Po<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13017814111974602094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-71058013877881091722018-10-20T18:19:57.369-07:002018-10-20T18:19:57.369-07:00The order the animals are mentioned in shows it sh...The order the animals are mentioned in shows it should be read "the pierced" not "like a lion" just read the comment above by nicktherutegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00139402885287658770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-49915495927098869112018-10-17T23:46:20.199-07:002018-10-17T23:46:20.199-07:00The rabbis who say that Ka'aru in the Dead Sea...The rabbis who say that Ka'aru in the Dead Sea scrolls is a mistake should look at this: <br /><br />https://youtu.be/MImJI68_-PoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13017814111974602094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-40491767927211332902013-12-27T11:30:56.272-08:002013-12-27T11:30:56.272-08:00Thanks Nick that is a good catch, it does look lik...Thanks Nick that is a good catch, it does look like its going in the reverses order like in Genesis 3, I looked at the words for ox/bull and they do seem to be interchangeable at times, at least in many translations.Berhane Selassiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06611383094868702883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4011690073227813525.post-50145883349321327302013-12-27T09:30:59.101-08:002013-12-27T09:30:59.101-08:00Hello Berhane,
There is actually a strong argume...Hello Berhane, <br /><br />There is actually a strong argument I noticed in this Psalm that makes it certain that "Pierced" is the right term. It's all about the parallelism found in the Psalm: <br /><br />12Many BULLS have surrounded me;<br /> Strong BULLS of Bashan have encircled me.<br /> 13They open wide their mouth at me,<br /> As a ravening and a roaring LION.<br /> 16For DOGS have surrounded me;<br /> A band of evildoers has encompassed me;<br /> They PIERCED my hands and my feet.<br /> 20Deliver my soul from the SWORD,<br /> My only life from the power of the DOG.<br /> 21Save me from the LIONs mouth;<br /> From the horns of the wild OXEN You answer me.<br /><br />Notice how there is a parallel going: Bull-Lion-Dog-Unknown-Sword-Dog-Lion-Bull/Ox<br />Clearly, "pierced" corresponds to "the Sword", which maintains the parallel as well as the fact "lion" is already mentioned twice. <br />Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.com