A few weeks ago I was debating Matt Slick and other antiCatholics (who were Calvinists) about the atonement. I accused the Calvinist Jesus with getting off easy by paying the penalty of multiple eternities (in Hell) of the elects' sin in less than 3 days, Matt Slick answer sounded like Jesus cheated or was dishonest saying, it is due to the communication idiomatio, meaning to him whatever you say of one nature can be said of the other, ie in this case, although he suffered for a finite period as a man, because He is also God, He can have been considered to have suffered forever since God is eternal. (something along these lines) To me this sounds like their Jesus cheated. as if he said "I knew this was only a few hours, but let's call this forever and go to heaven."
But I have to give Matt credit, so far he has been the ONLY Calvinist to explain who Jesus paid the eternal damnation of the elect in a finite period of time--Jesus had to cheat, it is certainly more clever than the standard Calvinist response that "it is a mystery, God has not given this informtion to us." I have also contacted catholicnick on this matter, seeing as how he enjoys discussing the Calvinist atonement.
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Friday, January 6, 2012
The word Judaizing
Some people that believe in keeping aspects of Mosaic law object to the term "Judaizer" or "Judaizing" saying it a made up term, and that its only used by Law (Torah) breakers.
However, the term Judazing is used in the New Testament, in fact, by St Paul himself
But when I saw that they were not straight forward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, “If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews [Ioudaizein]?-Galatians 2:14
Ἀλλ' ὅτε εἶδον ὅτι οὐκ ὀρθοποδοῦσιν πρὸς τὴν ἀλήθειαν τοῦ εὐαγγελίου, εἶπον, τῷ Πέτρῳ ἔμπροσθεν πὰντων, Εἰ σύ, Ἰουδαῖος ὑπὰρχων, ἐθνικῶς ζῇς καὶ οὐκ Ἰουδαϊκῶς, τί τά ἔθνη ἀναγκὰζεις Ἰουδαΐζειν;--Galatians 2:14
As we can see, St Paul used the word with the meaning "live like a Jew." Sabbath keeping is never pushed by Apostles in the New Testament, it was only obligatory until Christ's death, and was tolerated afterwards in the New Testament as part of the transition period for the Jews accustomed to keeping the 7th day sabbath.
However, the term Judazing is used in the New Testament, in fact, by St Paul himself
But when I saw that they were not straight forward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, “If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews [Ioudaizein]?-Galatians 2:14
Ἀλλ' ὅτε εἶδον ὅτι οὐκ ὀρθοποδοῦσιν πρὸς τὴν ἀλήθειαν τοῦ εὐαγγελίου, εἶπον, τῷ Πέτρῳ ἔμπροσθεν πὰντων, Εἰ σύ, Ἰουδαῖος ὑπὰρχων, ἐθνικῶς ζῇς καὶ οὐκ Ἰουδαϊκῶς, τί τά ἔθνη ἀναγκὰζεις Ἰουδαΐζειν;--Galatians 2:14
As we can see, St Paul used the word with the meaning "live like a Jew." Sabbath keeping is never pushed by Apostles in the New Testament, it was only obligatory until Christ's death, and was tolerated afterwards in the New Testament as part of the transition period for the Jews accustomed to keeping the 7th day sabbath.