Wednesday, December 12, 2012

St Peter's statue used to be Jupiter?

Another anticatholic myth breathes its last breath. A disgruntled anticatholic claims Emperor Constantine I created the Catholic Church by mixing Christianity with paganism, and like all illogical catholic haters, she passed the burden of proof to the Catholic.  Later, her smoking gun was a statue she claimed used to be Zeus was changed into Peter.  Even if this were true, what does that prove other than a statue changed names?! However, she, like most catholic haters depended on hate site that just pass false information, however, all catholic haters, be they Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Adventist, Muslim, Baptist, or pagan accept it as gospel truth. The sites claim this statue of Peter used to be Zeus. TOO BAD thats very unlikely since it was made in the 13-14th century, most likely by Arnolfo di Cambio.
 
 
 
 
Compare it was Zeus statues! Zeus usually was naked, or half naked in his statues! Here is a site on the statue http://www.digital-images.net/Gallery/Scenic/Rome/Churches/StPeters_Int/stpeters_int.html
 
Here is a link to Zeus statues. Perhaps the reason this myth was perpetuated by anticatholics is because both Zeus and Peter are portrayed as having curly hair
 
 

23 comments:

  1. who cares who it is. its an idol. it doesnt matter if u call the idol god jesus paul peter mary or santa. its an idol. you just named it. regardless of intent

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    1. An idol is an object of worship that is or represents a false god. A statute is just a statute, no one claims Peter is god. By the way, even in the book of Exodus 25 God instructs Moses to makes statutes of Cherubs out of gold, is that an idol too? Remember, it doesn't matter who we call it, or what the intent is

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    2. Please be vigilant/wise/careful, Berhane Selassie, I implore you to Study and practice the Bible(Word of GOD(YAH))& not the traditions of manmade religion.. We are Warned..to Not add or subtract one Jot Or Tittle of the Bible.. or you will be proved a Liar & ALL liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire.(Catholics do Bow down & Worship Mary Statues in their buildings and have many sungod traditions including "Sun"day service, Easter(Ashteroth/Ishtar(Sp?))too many to mention here. The 4th Commandment is to Remember the SABBATH DAY to KEEP it HOLY... it is the 7th Day(Fri. eve - Sat. eve.)Please, just Look at your wall calendar and count to the 7th day. Please Read Exodus 20:8-11 for yourself then study Mark 7:5-13). The 2nd Commandment says to NOT make "ANY" GRAVEN IMAGE... but Catholicism removed the second Commandment all together..(see/STUDY Mark 7:5-13) & says we don't "worship"(bow down) them, so we can have them as building/house decorating charms(Read Psalm 115). Also,for the record, Peter is dead(graven), cheribum are living(not graven). 1Thess 5:21 PROVE All things (according to the Word of Truth) and hold onto that which is good. Remember, Broad is the way and wide it the gate that leads to destruction and there be MANY that enter through it, but Narrow is the way and small is the Gate that leads to everlasting life and there are FEW who FIND it. Catholicism like All the Denominational Religions by size alone.. Disqualified! Blessings in Grace and Truth to All who are searching for GOD/Truth with ALL their Heart.

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    3. you said: Please be vigilant/wise/careful, Berhane Selassie, I implore you to Study and practice the Bible(Word of GOD(YAH))& not the traditions of manmade religion..

      me: The word of God also comes in form of oral traditions passed down from the Apostles. St Paul quoted Jewish oral tradition a number of times, and the Apostles actually for a time bound people in Acts 15 to follow some Jewish oral law concerning eating.

      you said: We are Warned..to Not add or subtract one Jot Or Tittle of the Bible.. or you will be proved a Liar & ALL liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire.(Catholics do Bow down & Worship Mary Statues in their buildings

      me: We bow to holy objects, not as Divine worship, which we reserve for the Trinity alone, but to give honor to what is holy to God, you will read even Moses bowed down to his father in law, Abraham bowed down to his neighbors, people bowed down to the prophets, and prophets bowed down to greater prophets like Elisha in 2 Kings. Joshua 7:6 they bowed to the ark of the covenant

      you said: and have many sungod traditions including "Sun"day service, Easter(Ashteroth/Ishtar(Sp?))too many to mention here.

      me: YHVH is THE Sun God. In fact Christ is called the Sun of Righteousness in Malachi, the "day break from on High" in Luke 1, the "light of the World," Christ rose on a SUNDAY. When Christ was born attracted people that were sometimes called "fire" or "sun worshippers"--the magi who pray facing a light source. Easter has nothing to do with Ishtar, look it up, the name is not related to a Middle Eastern goddess but with a GERMAN one, its only a name, just like sunday is only a name, or any other day of the week and month. The Catholic church officially calls "easter" Pascua--Passover. Its mostly English speaking and Germanic countries that use variants of the word Easter. Just look at what Latin speaking countries like Spain call it.

      you: The 4th Commandment is to Remember the SABBATH DAY to KEEP it HOLY... it is the 7th Day(Fri. eve - Sat. eve.)Please, just Look at your wall calendar and count to the 7th day. Please Read Exodus 20:8-11 for yourself then study Mark 7:5-13).

      me: The 7th Day Sabbath commandment is NEVER required of Christians in the scriptures--in fact Colossians 2 makes it clear that we are not to be judged by Sabbaths and feasts. If the Sabbath were required you would see Paul constantly reminding gentile Christians to keep it

      you: The 2nd Commandment says to NOT make "ANY" GRAVEN IMAGE... but Catholicism removed the second Commandment all together..

      me: Not true AT ALL, read by article on this myth. http://thisholysword.blogspot.com/2010/08/did-catholic-church-change-second.html Furthermore, as you seem to acknowledge later the Temple and ARk were decorated with them, there was NO exception mentioned in Exodus 20, but you want to make one for your own purpose but pretend it only condemns Catholics! The fact is the Ark was covered with giant cherubs, and Joshua bowed and prayed facing it.

      you:(see/STUDY Mark 7:5-13) & says we don't "worship"(bow down) them, so we can have them as building/house decorating charms(Read Psalm 115). Also,for the record, Peter is dead(graven), cheribum are living(not graven).


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    4. me: GRAVEN has nothing to do with living or dead. Its how the art is made.

      "graven (adj.) Look up graven at Dictionary.com
      "sculpted, carved," late 14c., past participle adjective from grave (v.) + -en (1)."


      you: 1Thess 5:21 PROVE All things (according to the Word of Truth) and hold onto that which is good. Remember, Broad is the way and wide it the gate that leads to destruction and there be MANY that enter through it, but Narrow is the way and small is the Gate that leads to everlasting life and there are FEW who FIND it. Catholicism like All the Denominational Religions by size alone.. Disqualified!

      me: not true, first of all there was never a time when Catholicism was the majority of humanity, furthermore, we do not pretend all Catholics go to heaven. Finally, all of humanity is in a religious "minority" since there is no religion that people are more than 50% of the worlds population. Being smaller than 2 Billion proves nothing about your religion other than your group is ineffective at reaching a larger audience or poor at evangelism or too new to making an impact.

      you:Blessings in Grace and Truth to All who are searching for GOD/Truth with ALL their Heart.

      me: I hope you seek Him with ALL your heart also, and now follow after 19th century AMERICAN religious movements.

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    5. Your pope sits in jupiters seat , jupiter is jove jehova his many names can be discovered easily . Jehova is also the egyptian amon ra . Jehova , jupiter is the gnostic morning star , the blazing star . Who is the son of the morning star zeus , yes it is apollo they didnt even bother to change his name in the bible they called him abbadon , apollyon he was horus , krishna , mitra and christ .

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    6. Where does it ever say Zeus is the son of the morning star? Jehovah is wrong, a more accurate rendering is along the lines of Yahveh. You are just mixing religions into a blender

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    7. agreed gordo. an idol is an idol, whether made of YHVH or of Peter or of Azazel. Even idols of Jesus are against the commandment.

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    8. False! Their more than one statue at the Vatican named St. Peter. There is in fact one there likely created by Arnolfo di Cambio. in the 13-14 century, but there is also a more famous statue of Jupiter/Sol Invictus taken from the Roman Pantheon and renamed Peter. It has been touched so many times by Catholics over the years the feet are worn down.

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  2. By definition, any visual representation of someone who is worshiped is an idol. Even a visual representation of Jesus Christ is an idol.

    idol
    n.noun
    An image used as an object of worship.
    A false god.
    One that is adored, often blindly or excessively.
    Something visible but without substance.

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    1. For a biblical term using an English dictionary is foolish. No one worship's St Peter's statue. They give homage to it because St Peter, not the statue itself. Cherbium was put on the Ark of the Covenant in Exodus 25, and the ark itself was bowed down to by Joshua in Joshua 7

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  3. Give homage to God...none other.

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    1. You will see in the Scriptures people, even prophets, giving homage to other prophets, kings, and other people.

      2 Samuel 16:4—"The king therefore said to Ziba, "So! Everything Meribbaal had is yours." Then Ziba said: "I pay you homage*, my lord the king. May I find favor with you!"

      2 Kings 2:15—“And the disciples of the prophets who were in Jericho saw him from a distance, and they said, "Elijah's spirit has rested on Elisha." And they came toward him and prostrated themselves before him to the ground.”

      1 Chronicles 29:20—Then David besought the whole assembly, "Now bless the LORD your God!" And the whole assembly blessed the LORD, the God of their fathers, bowing down and prostrating* themselves before the LORD and before the king.

      Revelation 3:9—“Behold, I will make those of the assembly of Satan who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying, behold I will make them come and fall prostrate at your feet, and they will realize that I love you.”

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  5. The $64,000 question which Sunday keeping church keeps the whole day (24 hours) holy

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  6. I am a catholic but im starting to see now, our system of religion is just copied from the system of religion of the Assyrian empire worshipping dagon their fish god

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    1. I've read a lot about near east mythology, the bible has a lot in common with the near by religions, but its far from a copy and paste. The whole fish god thing is based on the episcopal hat, however, that comes from the Byzantine court. What do you know about Dagon?

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    2. You may be interested in my recent article where I compare the Bible and other near east religions, you there is much in common and much different. https://thisholysword.blogspot.com/2023/03/shared-title-of-god-and-gods-in-ot.html

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  7. I pray understanding shall be revealed to you all. Understand his name is Yah and call upon it. Pray for his Holy spirit to give you truth and discernment and protection. Maybe these people are being sent to you because he sees how strong your faith is like bartimaeus he wants to open your eyes. I understand it is scary to feel if you go against what you were raised in Yah will be upset with you. But he won't. He is a loving father. And he wants you to seek him 1st and to have faith he will guide you. The issue with religions are they tell you everything your suppose to know about Yah.(except his name)so you never seek him and develop an in-depth relationship like a marriage. Religion is like having a interpreter whose still trying to learn the language. I wish you all a blessed day HalleluYah!

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    1. I am no longer interested in the false piety of sacred namers. Its polluted with ignorance, arrogance, and bad Hebrew and sometimes Aramaic. If God is our Father then is it proper to regularly speak of your father by his first name? Do you address your father by his first name?

      Religion can be good, Jesus created a religion, He made judge.

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  8. I would rather be an Anticatholic than being an Anti-Christ. Catholic is the biggest false doctrine, bigger than Mormons.

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    1. do you have an examples? I've studied Mormonism a lot, in my opinion the reformation and "restoration" are not that different, Mormons just are honest about apostacy and that they are led by a prophet. Feel free to prove your point.

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