Conversation with a Protestant antinomian

The following a rough dialogue with a man I occassionally talk to on Paltalk, I have changed his name to antinomian protestant, I am Berhane Selassie

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Did you know In the year 432 The worship of Mary is instituted. The term "Mother of God" originated at the council of Ephesus and was bestowed upon Mary….(1 Tim 2:5 KJV) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

BerhaneSelassie: tHAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT

BerhaneSelassie: EPHESUS TOOK PLACE IN aD 431

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: lol

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: FACTUALLLY incorrect?...lol

BerhaneSelassie: THE TERM THEOTOKOS LOOSELY TRANSLATEDION "MOTHER OF GOD" IS FOUND 200 YEARS BEFORE EPHESUS

BerhaneSelassie: 1 TIMOTHY 2;5 IS IRRELEVANT

BerhaneSelassie: ARE ALL PROTESTNTS AS DISHONEST AS YOU?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Do you know that the Only times you see the term Mother of God that is speaks of the Wicked & Ungodly?

BerhaneSelassie: the term mother of God never appears in the Bible

BerhaneSelassie: te closest is "mother of my Lord" found in Luke 1:43

BerhaneSelassie: which the term "mother of God" is based on

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: That is because ther is no such thing as Mother of God

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: GOD IS ETERNAL

BerhaneSelassie: are you going to admit all of the claims you made were factually wrong?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: He has NO MOTHER...NO Beginning & NO END

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: no

BerhaneSelassie: or you will you a typical deceptful missionariy mascarading as truth in the name of God?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: the year 432 The worship of Mary is instituted.

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: FACT

BerhaneSelassie: not true

BerhaneSelassie: council was in 431, and Mary and the saints were already long venerated

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The RCC Keeps on Changing their doctrines to suit their false beliefs

BerhaneSelassie: not true

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: They are the Nicolaitans of the Bible whom GOD HATES

BerhaneSelassie: since you get all of your facts wrong so far

BerhaneSelassie: why should i believe you when you come with the "gospel"?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Just like In the year 600 The Latin language was imposed upon the mass by Gregory I….(2 Cor 3:12 KJV) Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

BerhaneSelassie: Nicolaitians were the followers of Deacon Nicolaos in ACts 6:5

BerhaneSelassie: he was the source of a wicked sect---he let men have sex with his wife

BerhaneSelassie: The Latin Mass was long established for 300 years before Gregory

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: "nikao" which means "conqueror" and "laos" which means "people." When the two words are combined, it means "conqueror of the people." ....Or to Rule the Laety

BerhaneSelassie: The Mass was not made into Latin in the west til AD 215

BerhaneSelassie: and it was the lanuage of the people

BerhaneSelassie: even in AD 600

BerhaneSelassie: THats a false definition and ignores the fact that people often have names that means stuff

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The RCC set up the Pope seat and tried to implement the Apostolic succession which is Totally Unbiblical

BerhaneSelassie: Apostolic sucession is done in the bible, Read Acts 6:5, Acts 13:2-5, 1 Timothy 4:14, 2 Timothy 1:5ish

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Never

BerhaneSelassie: it was even done in the OT, the reason why your chruch is false is because it lacks the imposition of hands that derives fromthe apostles

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The one that really is a hoot is when In the year 998 Fasting on Friday and during Lent was introduced…..(1 Tim 4:3 KJV) Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

BerhaneSelassie: Some anti hierarchical Protestants like to push the myth that the Catholic Church is the Nicolaitans mentioned in Revelation 2:

    But you have this in your favor: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.-Revelation 2:6

    Likewise, you also have some people who hold to the teaching of (the) Nicolaitans.-Revelation 2:15

They claim Nicolaitian means "nico" =over, and "laitian"=laity, so they claim Nicolaitan refers to a system when there is a difference between clerics and the laity, a hierarchy. This interpretation is new, it was probably invented by Scofield.

The fact is Nicolaitans is a group named after a man named Nicholas, just a people are called Christians in the Bible. The name Nicolas is a Greek new testament name:

    masc. proper name, from Gk. Nikholaos, lit. "victory-people," from nike "victory" + laos "people."-Etymoline.com

My interlinear explains the name means "conquer people." Could this sect be named after a man named Nicholas? Well there is a Nicolas in Acts 6:5

    The proposal was acceptable to the whole community, so they chose Stephen, a man filled with faith and the Holy Spirit, also Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicholas of Antioch, a convert to Judaism.--Acts 6:5

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Before the RCC said you would go to Hell for eating meat on Fridays....Now you don't???

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: lol

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: WOW

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Who are these guys?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Only ONE Thing can send you to Hell

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Tell your Pope this for me

BerhaneSelassie: καὶ ἤρεσεν ὁ λόγος ἐνώπιον παντὸς τοῦ πλήθους, καὶ ἐξελέξαντο Στέφανον, ἄνδρα πλήρης πίστεως καὶ πνεύματος ἁγίου, καὶ Φίλιππον καὶ Πρόχορον καὶ Νικάνορα καὶ Τίμωνα καὶ Παρμενᾶν καὶ Νικόλαον προσήλυτον Ἀντιοχέα,--Acts 6:5

BerhaneSelassie: notice the name there is Νικόλαον

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Rejecting JESUS FULL PAYMENT for ALL your sins apart from your works & the Roman Catholic Church

BerhaneSelassie: its a compound word, nikoand laos---just like Revelation 2

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: If anyone is trusting in ANY Part of the Roman Catholic church as a means of Helping them gain Heaven....They Cannot & WIll NOT Make it.

BerhaneSelassie: STOP JUMPING AROND

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: I pray you see this Berhane & TRUST JESUS ALONE to Save you.

BerhaneSelassie:            ἀλλὰ τοῦτο ἔχεις, ὅτι μισεῖς τὰ ἔργα τῶν Νικολαϊτῶν, ἃ κἀγὼ μισῶ. --rEVELATION 2:6

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: are you beginning to see how religiously deceived these poor Catholic popes are? and How they are leading you to HELL?

BerhaneSelassie: notice the word Νικολαϊτῶν resembles the Νικάνορα of Acts 6:5

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Berhane..... Stop with all the excuses

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: TRUST JESUS

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Not the RCC

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The Popes and Priests and RCC cannot and will NOT HELP

BerhaneSelassie:  ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The one that really is a hoot is when In the year 998 Fasting on Friday and during Lent was introduced…..(1 Tim 4:3 KJV) Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The Sacraments cannot help

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: your good works cannot help

BerhaneSelassie: the problem with this is 1) lent was already long established for 100s of years before this

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: The MASS cannot help

BerhaneSelassie: 2) Christ speaks of his apostles fastng

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: NOTHING but FAITH ALONE IN JESUS ALONE WILL SAVE YOU

BerhaneSelassie: 3) 1 timothy 4 addresses heretics that reject these meats completely, like judaizers

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Berhane......TRADITION will NOT HELP

BerhaneSelassie: a false gospel and false information helps no one--except for you to gain false converts

BerhaneSelassie: Jesus instituted Sacraments, HE even said Baptism saves

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Berhane..... Are you trusting in JESUS FULL PAYMENT For ALL YOUR SINS ALNE To Get you to Heaven....Or is it someone or something else?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Think about it

BerhaneSelassie: i dont believe in your "full payment" idea, you believe in a wicked penal substitution

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Either your Faith is in CHRIST FULL PAYMENT for ALL your sins on the Cross...... Or it is not

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: Then you will wind up in Hell

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: sadly

BerhaneSelassie: did Jesus pay it in full for me already?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: because your Sins CANNOT & WILL NOT EVER BE PAID FOR if they have not already

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: ALL YOUR SINS

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: EVERY SINGLE ONE

BerhaneSelassie: then why do i have to so soemthing to be saved?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: ALL you can do to Have His Full Payment Applied to your account is to BELIEVE HE DID IT FOR YOU... APART from ANY HUMAN EFFORT or Religious Rituals.

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: You don't have to DO anything ....JUST BELIEVE

BerhaneSelassie: wait, so if i dont accept----JEsus paid a payment, and I will have to pay it in hell?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: When you BELIEVE JESUS PAID IT ALL FOR YOU.... THEN YOU RECEIVE GODS FREE GIFT of ETERNAL LIFE that Moment!

BerhaneSelassie: ok, but if i dont, i wll have to pay the payment in hell?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: You won't PAY ANthing in Hell.....That is the Consequence of your Rejection of JESUS Payment

BerhaneSelassie: so you changed you theology already since i talked to you before?

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: HELL is the Destination for all those who Reject the Payment Jesus made for them

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: No

BerhaneSelassie: why does Matt 5 say the guard will put you in jail til you PAY the last PENNY?

BerhaneSelassie: Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny. --Matthew 5:26

ANTINOMIAN PROTESTANT: What is the verse you are misunderstanding and thinking speaks of Salvation?

BerhaneSelassie: Settle with your opponent quickly while on the way to court with him.q Otherwise your opponent will hand you over to the judge, and the judge will hand you over to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison. 26Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.

BerhaneSelassie: the context of this is HELL, just look what Jesus says before --you go to hell fo calling "fool" in verse 22, and you go to hell in verse 29 for committing sexual sin

BerhaneSelassie: PRISION IS HELL